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    Default Why Amicus18 is not open source computer hardware like Arduino?

    Why Amicus18 is not open source hardware like Arduino UNO?

    Is there some possibility that it will be in the future?





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    Hi,
    I may be wrong but I thought it was, at least I think the,circuit diagram is in the manual.

    Bob

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    The Amicus18 is as open as it can be.

    The manual has the circuit diagram, and the bootloader and serial terminal source codes are here on the forum. I'll upload gerbers if required. The Full Proton compiler fully supports all the devices on the Amicus18 board, and more.

    I'm busy designing new Amicus18 and Amicus24 boards that use no surface mount devices so users can build them themselves if required. The USB will be one of the, very, very inexpensive USB to serial boards available. This was the one device I could not get in a DIL package, and the SMT devices are too expensive now. i.e. FTDI devices, which are also untrustworthy because the new FTDI driver actually disables the device if it doesn't like its setup. How stupid is that?, and it's an official download with Windows updates! The new Amicus boards will have right angle pins to access RX and TX, where the USB socket is now, and this is where the USB attaches too. This means the rest of the board is simply resistors, capacitors, and a regulator etc... It also means they will be a lot less expensive to buy, so hopefully they will catch on.
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    Sounds great Les, will you be retailing the boards and posting to Australia?
    I need a protyping board for the P24 series. Will it be a 28 pin device?
    Apart from being a backboard for all those nice modules available so cheaply it will also be a huge plus with wired components. When I solder nowadays I not only need to see the parts but also hit the spot as the soldering iron goes past. The joys of being not so young, however it's a darn sight better than the alternative.
    Best wishes
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    Yes John.

    I'll be placing the boards on Ebay with international postage. The boards are quite small, so postage shouldn't be huge, and the boxes they are going into are also simple small packages. I'll also be issuing the boards alone if users want to build their own.

    I'm busy re-testing my PCB gerbers before I send them off to China to get them made (just in case :-) ).

    They are 28-pin devices for enhanced 14-bit core devices, 18F devices and PIC24, dsPIC devices. Maybe later, I'll add a larger device board, but the PIC24 and dsPIC devices do not come in 40-pin DIL packages, so it will be fixed to one device, unfortunately.

    The board has a 28-pin socket and a simple header plug that chooses 3.3 Volts or 5 Volts for the device.

    I know what you mean John.... We forget that we are getting older.
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    Thanks Les, I'll definitely be a starter. Do you have a photo of your prototype?
    John

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    Wot John said. Ebay is a good idea, specially if you take paypal.
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    Hi Les,
    I have to take issue with you over your comments on the FTDI devices. At one point they had a setup program that bricked counterfeit parts that weren't genuine FTDI hardware, but I've never heard that they would brick their own devices, I doubt that. I use the FT230X which has a reduced pin count which is handy.
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    I no longer have my CNC machine, so I couldn't make a prototype PCB. I had to sell it to pay a bill a few months ago. Instead, I'm examining the gerbers very carefully, and getting a couple made in China first. If everything is OK, I'll get more ordered, if I can get the money together. :-(

    John. I've heard, valid, reports of the FTDI driver misjudging devices that have had their name and VID/PID changed, as Amicus does. But it just got to me that a company can actually release official drivers that can destroy the chip. That is not right at all, and makes a mockery of all this "signed drivers" nonsense of Microsoft. If any company is going to release deliberately bad drivers, I want absolutely nothing to do with them. The newer Chinese USB to serial chips work excellently, and are a quarter of the price of the FTDI chips. There are also a few different types, and they work flawlessly, even on Windows 10 64-bit.
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