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    I'm in the state of buying some high level IDE.
    In the Proton Development Suite descriptions say that Windows 7 - 64 bit don't work.
    ICD3 is not mentioned.
    But here in the forum it seems as both the above works.
    Whats correct?
    Why aren't there any demo videos?

    Been looking at CCS also - seems a lot more professional except for the crappy language selection (C) - but also more expensive.

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    Hi,

    I can confirm that PDS works well with Windows 7 -64bit. Not sure about ICD3 - perhaps someone else would like to comment. I'm new to PDS myself and have found it excellent with equally excellent support.

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    Bob

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    I can confirm Win 7 64bit works
    ICD3 is a Mchip programmer so would not be relevant as you use it to program the Hex.
    Tim

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    No problems here, Win7/64 Home Premium.
    PicKit2 and 3 work fine.
    Don't see why ICD3 wouldn't work, it's just USB 2.0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim View Post
    I can confirm Win 7 64bit works
    ICD3 is a Mchip programmer so would not be relevant as you use it to program the Hex.
    Thanks for the answers. Sounds good.

    Tim what do you mean - "not relevant" ? Am I missing something here?

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    Maybe. Depends on your understaning of USB and what programming a device menas.
    USB is the protocol/hardware used to communicate between PC and ICD3, works on all kind of platforms. But the ICD3 can only be used on platforms supported by MPLab-X.
    Programming/debugging a device using ICD3 is a combination of the PC OS and ICD3 controlling software on the one side and the ICD3 hardware/embedded software on the other side.
    This works as well with Win XP as with Win 7, because the version of the OS hardly is of relevance for this operation.

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    I bought an evaluation kit ICD3 and PICDEM2+ , thats why I'm asking.
    Then thought assembler is not my idea of programming in this century and started looking for more high level languages.
    Is all programming made boot loading?
    It is said in the PDS description that you can install more or less any programmer.
    Is there any debugging in the PDS environment?

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    PDS produces a HEX output ready to go onto the PIC , you can use any programmer to put it on there PDS doesn't care which you use (hence irrelevant as it doesn't affect PDS).
    ICD3 is one of many programmers.
    Debugging is supported through MPLAB , PDS will produce a compatible COFF file so you can debug basic code direct on hardware.

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    Your opinion on assembler is all yours, I for one disagree with you totally. My primary programming language for uC's is assembler, PDS is my second.
    No, not all programming is done using a bootloader. To use a bootloader you need a device that is capable of that and that has a bootloader installed (or you can install it yourself).
    Yes, you can install almost all programmers. But you'll have to supply the parameters for a number of them.
    No, there's no debugging in the PDS environment itself. There's ISIS, but PDS comes only with a limited version of it.
    But you can use the debugging facilities of MPLab IDE 8.xx.

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    MTIH, if you'd like to integrate programming seamlessly withing PDS, you can manually enter the programmer tool you utilize for your ICD3 in the programmer settings. This works best if you have a command line based tool available for that; PDS enables you to enter the subsequent parameters to get that to work.

    Did you already have a look at the Free Amicus18 page on the site? This gives you a full-featured PDS which is great for evaluation and testing your programmer as well. The only limitation it the fact that it just supports one single Picmicro device, being 18F25K20.

    Direct link: www.myamicus.co.uk

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    Proton Amicus18 supports two devices. PIC18F25K20 and PIC18F25K22

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