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analogdevice
7th January 2007, 13:03
If you are thinking about buying it, ---> Buy it!

No I dont work for Crownhill etc.. I spent the last 10 years with MPLAB bit banging in assembly. That worked well, but recently I have had to do more with less development time. Newer faster PIC's are out so I had to find another way. PDS is a breeze.

Even though I have only had it a few months and I am still on the learning curve, I love it. :)

fanie
7th January 2007, 13:24
PDS (google)

PRECISION DRILL TRST
Planitary Data System
Parkinson's Disease Society
Party of Democratic Socialism
Paul Davis Systems
Productive Data Solutions

Proton Development Suite. Yes we know. If you become a licensed user instead of forum user you can change the few months into a few days is my guess !

analogdevice
7th January 2007, 13:38
If you become a licensed user instead of forum user you can change the few months into a few days is my guess !



hmm.. yes, I have a licensed copy I purchased from Crownhill. I completed the fields for licenced user validation in my user profile a while ago.

fanie
7th January 2007, 14:59
Quickest way to learn it is to use it !

Llamabob
8th January 2007, 11:50
I just bought one of everything this weekend... Proton Development Suite, Simulator for 18-series, board, etc.. I've been studying the demo version all weekend. I can't wait until I get my box of goodies.

Bob

fanie
8th January 2007, 17:54
ONE OF EVERYTHING !! Good grief ! Did you come here to brag or what !!

Just pulling your leg - well done ! - at least you can get something done now eh ! Nice Christmas box. I never get anything like that around here... Must be a Huntsville thing ?

Kalain
18th May 2007, 17:27
If you are thinking about buying it, ---> Buy it!

No I dont work for Crownhill etc.. I spent the last 10 years with MPLAB bit banging in assembly. That worked well, but recently I have had to do more with less development time. Newer faster PIC's are out so I had to find another way. PDS is a breeze.

Even though I have only had it a few months and I am still on the learning curve, I love it. :)

Did you try MikroBasic before you made your choice ?
http://www.mikroe.com/en/compilers/mikrobasic/pic/index.htm

Alain

Tim
18th May 2007, 18:33
I always do careful analysis of other compilers to see what there up to.

MB is an OK compiler but still suffers from its unreliable reputation. If this is still justified I do not know.

The code generated is pretty poor, rather than produce the best product for the job they produced a basic product then moved on to another compiler. The effort required to polish it is pretty time consuming, something they do not seem interested in doing.

Its procedural which is nice of your after that, technically Proton is superior, If you want Procedural then SF is technically better.

Price wise its cheaper but then if your worrying about the cost difference of a few £ then your time must be cheep to.

But life is full of choices, pick what you think is best. After the years I have been writing in Basic I have to stick with the best there is and that's Proton.

analogdevice
18th May 2007, 19:26
Yes I looked around and settled on PDS. I still have plenty to learn to get the most out of it and I am very happy with my purchase :) I dont like the dongle key, but I accept that is a fact of life.

Llamabob
18th May 2007, 19:34
Hi Alain,

I definitely have no regrets with PDS. I also have the full VSM simulation for the 18F. Its working out wonderfully.

What has really surprised me is that it has given me the courage to do some very advanced and complex things that I would never attempt in "C". I also like the freedom not being forced into a structure. If a "Goto" is the most elegant exit strategy out of a loop, then I use a "Goto".

Another thing that's surprised me is how tight the code is. I'm doing all types of complex floating point multiplication, division, lookup table algorithms... and I've never even come close to running out of time, code space, or memory.

Bob

fanie
18th May 2007, 20:41
I still have plenty to learn to get the most out of it

I'd say this is a wide open statement ! Been at it for between twenty and a hunderd and one years :eek: and the more you learn the more you realize how little you know. That sucks a bit, I like to know everything of everything. You never get the most of it either, there is always something else added to the heap of things that can be done ;) but I like it this way - it keeps things interesting.


and I've never even come close to running out of time, code space, or memory

Now you sound just like Tim !
I run out of time all the time, when next I look the day is gone and haven't done all I planned to do :(
I'm out of memory a lot, sometimes even cannot remember where I left the car key's :rolleyes:

As everyone else, I'm really glad I made the choice to buy Proton's stuff.
I tried a few other pic basics and finally met Tim and a couple of other very clever creatures here and decided to hang around a bit. The code seems to get done easily and there's help if one needs it. :cool:

andy wong
24th May 2007, 21:36
I used PDS in a multi-PIC (18F458 X4) project in laptop board test automation for my company and had built 50 units and in-use so far. I was so surprised how robust and reliable it was. Never one software related downtime in over a year.

Copy'nPaste
10th September 2007, 18:55
Mmm, I had access to LetPicBasic, then PBP, then needed/wanted floating point and GLCD, so bought mikroElektronika, now I need easy code for RC projects, and although it cost an arm and a leg, received my Proton today :D
I have to admit, mikroElektronika tought me more about coding in six months, than the previous two others in years, so I have quite a soft spot for it :cool:
And it's forum is no less vibrant and helpfull than this one :)
Part of the decision to get Proton was that I could effortlessly integrate mE's EasyPic 3 board into Proton :D
And they have such nice goodies on their website...

I hate the usb dongle :mad:
Oh, I've already tied a piece of Dacron cord to the dongle, to remove it, you'll have to decapitate me :D

fanie
10th September 2007, 19:55
although it cost an arm and a leg
Which side were you willing to sacrefice ? Are you ALL RIGHT ?

Don't worry, you'll grow away from the others sooner than later.

Dacron cord eh ! you're fishing ? for dongles ? on your PC ? :rolleyes:
Well then you're probably from South Africa eh ! :D

Copy'nPaste
10th September 2007, 20:20
Well then you're probably from South Africa eh !
So waar dink jy is Cape Town :confused: :D:D:D:D

Most expensive little usb thingy I've ever bought, that's why it's tied to me with Dacron :D

fanie
10th September 2007, 20:33
'Copy'nPaste'... weird naam maar seker normaal as jy in Kaapstad is :D Beter die aksent vir die plek hê ne'. Sien jy doen hand gliding... nog 'n malletjie wat van klippe af spring of is dit as jy jou hand by die kar se venster uit hou ? :eek: Are you guys still only working between 10:30 and 15:00 ? :confused: What kind of a techy are you ?

Copy'nPaste
10th September 2007, 21:02
Nope, these days we start 30 min earlier......, so we can go home earlier :D
Not going to tell where I work, very embarrassing, lack of ambition, stuff like that you know ;)
As for hang gliding, well, I've been at it since 1978, go figure :cool:
My sig ? That's how I code :D

fanie
10th September 2007, 21:06
Well, that's an easy guess. You're working most likely for the gov or the council - can only be one of them ;) Sorry...

One day when I'm big I'd also like to go hang gliding. They put air bags in them nowadays in case you decide to drop out ? :rolleyes:

Copy'nPaste
11th September 2007, 06:17
Funny, when I grow up, I would like to write code :D

Mmm, I think we've hijacked this thread long enough, see you in the lounge :)

precision
11th September 2007, 09:52
I always do careful analysis of other compilers to see what there up to.

MB is an OK compiler but still suffers from its unreliable reputation. If this is still justified I do not know.

The code generated is pretty poor, rather than produce the best product for the job they produced a basic product then moved on to another compiler. The effort required to polish it is pretty time consuming, something they do not seem interested in doing.

Its procedural which is nice of your after that, technically Proton is superior, If you want Procedural then SF is technically better.

Price wise its cheaper but then if your worrying about the cost difference of a few £ then your time must be cheep to.

But life is full of choices, pick what you think is best. After the years I have been writing in Basic I have to stick with the best there is and that's Proton.

Hi, How about PBP with 32bit......
There are ever most stable compiler(PBP), Now with 32 bit LONG....
I think 30% industrial item depend on ASM, 45% depend on PBP and 25% Others.
And Forum ? ... One Thread, about 5 to 35 code example post reply in PBP forum. Great help,
I come here only for 32 bit math, i glad. now PBP is 32...........

Thanks

fanie
11th September 2007, 12:53
Hi precision,

I'm glad you said 'you think' - is probably where you get your statistics from.

I would guess the reason you won'y find that many 'code examples' in one thread may be bacause it's not a real issue here. Like Tim said, life is full of choices, pick what you think is best. No competition ;)

precision
12th September 2007, 04:59
Dear fanie, Yes. ;) , No competition,
you wrong guess, I don't want code and eny example :)

My question was clear-cut on interrupt that was solved by tim, :) , I am glad.:)

We are the manufacturers of Loadcell, Torque, Pressure,Accelerometers, and Instruments, we devlopeing all our instruments in asm and PBP (LOAD, FLOW, RPM, TEMP. and so......), (www.precision.net.in). Our all data acquisition systems are based on PBP and DASYLAB & Labview. I Dont come here for code example. :)

But if newbie wants to learn coding in PDS, :D , and his project is based on so and so.. :) , He wants example , After searching forum :confused: :confused: , and forum dont , :eek:

RGV250
12th September 2007, 07:48
Hi Precision,
There is a really good amount of examples in the samples folder supplied with PDC and PDS lite, there are not many things not covered. You or any prospective purchaser can not expect examples of every single device and application to be covered. I thought that was half the fun of it, working it out for yourself, it gives a lot of satisfaction.

Bobby